If the Pirates have the opportunity to trade Jack Wilson for a quality prospect or two, should they pull the trigger? Would you be willing to see a repeat of our early season shortstop issues if it meant the team would improve a year or two down the road?
Mike from Hyzdu Headquarters
As bad as the shortstops were early this season and as valulable as Jack Wilson appeared due to it, I would be willing to move him for some prospects. I’d do it with some caution, as I would want to max out his value, due to his value to the Pirates. So it might be hard to find that value, but I would not really consider it if we could not get something that could one day equal his value.
At this point the Pirates just need to accumulate as much talent as possible. The entire organization is in disarray. Anyone could be moved so that we can build talent, then we can worry about the 25 man roster or even who will play shortstop. Moving Jack Wilson would be a tough decision, but one that from a baseball standpoint, we may be forced to make.
Brian McElhinny from Raise the Jolly Roger!
The unfortunate answer is yes. Although it will be extremely painful to suffer through the rest of this year with Bixler/Gomez/Rivas at short, this year is not why we’d be making this trade. If we can get any type of legit prospects for Jack (like we’re hearing from the Dodgers), Huntington needs to pull the trigger, and I think he will. I love Jack, but he’s not the long term answer, and if we can get more than he’s worth, it’s a deal.
Andy Smith from Bugs and Cranks
Yes, on both fronts, but with some clarifications. I hope what Jack Wilson’s absence earlier this season proved to Neal Huntington, other than that the organization is woefully thin at shortstop, is how good #2 really is. To me, the key word in the first question, is quality. If a team like the Dodgers offers premium talent, then a deal has to be made. However, Wilson isn’t the type of player that should be shuffled for spare parts in the name of “rebuilding.” The Pirates are in fifth place right now. Tom Gorzelanny is in the minors. Matt Capps is on the DL. Even a month or so ago, when the team was challenging for .500 and in sniffing distance of a wild card, I thought moving some of their better players for young prospects was the right move, and I’m even more steadfast in that opinion right now.
Steeltown Mike from Steeltown Sports
You do indeed pull the trigger if the prospects are quality. That would go for any player, not just Wilson, whose stock is above average. I’m not sure how much Neal Huntington will have to do with it, though. He may have a couple of trades already forming, but will get a veto from owner Bob Nutting…a veto we probably would never actually know about (but we would suspect).
Regardless, Huntington will have to walk that very thin line…overasking for any given player just a touch, so that a team’s counteroffer will be more than acceptable. If the counteroffer is not satisfactory, he has to be willing to walk away.
This was the brick wall that Dave Littlefield repeatedly rammed his head into. He would ask way too much for an underachieving player, he would be laughed at, and then he would be offered peanuts for the same player. Littlefield would then pull the trigger instead of telling the other team to shove off.
Most of us have suspected that the Pirates wouldn’t finish with a .500 record. I mean, a definition of fanaticism is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Walking away from a trade option that doesn’t benefit the Pirates long-term is something different, and it will make ballclubs begin to take Pirate upper management a little more seriously.
You know that when “Littlefield” would show up on other GM’s caller IDs after awhile, that other GM would chuckle a little before he answered the call.
If he answered the call.
Jesse from Raise the Jolly Roger!
Yes, I absolutely would. If we can get anything good for him I would pull the trigger. Chris Gomez could possibly play shortstop and he is doing well. I hope we can get rid of him while he still has value.
Dave from Bucs Trade Winds
As a fan I would not want to trade Jack Wilson. As a GM, I would trade him with an eye towards getting a middle infield prospect and pitching in this deal or one of the other deals before the deadline. For all the drafting of arms the previous regime did, there is very little in the cupboard to show for it. It is quite obvious pitching is what has been lacking this season. While Jack has been one of the faces of the Pirates, along with Bay, the team needs to get something from these players before they are lost with no known returns. The reason I say no known returns is the draft is a crap shoot, if you get prospects that are known talents you don’t take as large of a risk of a player not developing to the perceived potential.
I still believe Bixler will be a good quality shortstop in the majors, he just isn’t ready yet. His call up early in the year was ugly. Bixler did start to perform better with the glove prior to Wilson returning and his bat is much better than he showed while with the Pirates. I could see Bixler being in Pittsburgh next season, hopefully he would be ready by then. Until that point, I would take the shortstop play we saw early in the season IF it means good return in trade.